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Read Romeo and Juliet

After reading Romeo and Juliet please participate in the discussion below (Activity Grade). Respond to at least 3 questions of choice and responds to at least 3 classmates of choice. You may do more: 3 and 3 is the minimum.

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T 5/3 In-class Essay on Archetypes in Romeo and Juliet
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T 5/31 Final Revisions and Conferences
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  1. Be sure you are signed-in and sign you post with your last initial and first name. For example "S. Jason"

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  2. Shakespeare tells us at the beginning that Romeo and Juliet are "star crossed lovers" who are going to die. Why do they have to die?

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    1. From the beginning, it was said that Romeo and Juliet are star crossed lovers who are going to die because fate was against their love. They came from two different families who were enemies. Both families would never allow them to be together. After the killing of Mercutio and Tybalt, there was no way for the families to accept Romeo and Juliet's love. It was impossible for them to be together even though Romeo and Juliet really wanted to be. Therefore, they had to die. T.Nawal

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    2. Romeo and Juliet are going to die because of the inmence love they have for each other and because death was the cure to find freedom from hatred of both families Capulet and Montague toward their love.
      Tybalt and Mercutio are going to die by defending their relatives honor. Also Paris dies by defending capulet's "tumb",

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    3. Romeo and Juliet had to die because of their great love towards eachother, the feud between both families was what was forbidding them from being together. Their love was a forbidden love. They had to die in order for both families to come together and understand that the war between eachother should stop. They would take with them their families hatred to death.
      P. Jenyfer

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    4. Reply to P. Jenyfer:
      I think you are right, they did have to die because it was forbidden. The rivalry from both their families were too strong for them to overcome. However, I think it is because of their death for each that their families might then stop the hatred towards one another since it is because of that hatred that caused them to lose one of their children.
      G. Veronica

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    6. Shakespears, said "star crossed lovers" obviously members of a rivalary finds love. Who had to die because their families, their life as they had known it together was written in the stars and since they were still children they believed the worst. In other words they believed they had to die to be reunioned because their fate wouldn't allow so otherwise.
      M. Vanessa

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    7. They have to die because no one will ever accept the fact that they are madly In love and are also rivals. They want to be free and escape from everyone who disapproved thier love and the only way to be together without anyone saying anything about it was if they die together to show that the love was stronger then death it's self. They weren't scared to die for each other because the love they had for was much more powerful
      F.Gonzalez

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    8. Replay to jenyfer I agree with ur answer that they felt like they had to die I order to stop the fight with both families I think it made them realize at the end how stupid it was because now two people died because they weren't happy with them being in love

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    9. Shakespeare tells us at the beginning, that Romeo and Juliet are star crossed lovers who are going to die. I think they have to die because it sets up a fantasy of true love and brings that fantasy to a crashing reality by killing these two lovers. I think that Shakespeare has some what lost hope in love and is telling the world this. He does this by showing people even the perfect couple is fickle and fragile in this complex world. I do believe that this is the epitome of forbidden love but also the epitome of hopelessness in the matter of love it's self because even the perfect couple could not live happily ever after.
      C.Almeida

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    10. Reply to T.Nawal, I think that fate was against them but the ideas of the family rivalry I think was to show that through all this adversity Romeo and Juliet could still find each other and true love. Showing that there is hope in finding that special someone but still telling you that regardless it will never workout in the end.
      C. Almeida

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    11. Reply to Carlos,
      I didn't look at it in the way you said it, but now that you say that I can see the relationship it may have with Shakespeare's own experience. I think it's an interesting way of viewing this story.
      J. Perez

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    12. Romeo and Juliet were referred to star crossed lovers who are going to die because of the fact that the play is a love and death story in which the main players eventually die in order to bring across intended message. He could have also refer to them in that manner in order to give his viewers a path along which to focus.
      Ian Clarke

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  3. In the film version, is it significant that Romeo is on drugs when he meets Juliet? Why or why not?

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    1. It is significant that Romeo was on drugs when first met Juliet. It may have clouded his feelings for her if he knew who she was. He may have not fallen in love with her then. However, it also shows that even though when he met her and fell in love at first sight and when the effects of drugs were over, he was still in love with her and still wanted to marry her. This shows his genuine love for her. T.Nawal

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    2. The use of drugs in the movie compensates for its setting, which is in the modern era rather than middle ages in Europe, as is in the book. In the book, Romeo, who is recently heartbroken from his unrequited love for Rosaline, goes hard after Juliet in his pursuit for love because he values her much highly, for in his time, it was perhaps hard to find such an opportunity again. In the movie, Romeo, who is also heartbroken, was not under any pressure to choose a partner immediately as it is the norm to go through multiple partners until people find the right partner that suits them. Therefore, Romeo didn't have to value women he'd meet in general as highly because the prospect for another is always available. What the drugs do in the movie is that they make Romeo value Juliet highly because they make him very sensitive to his amorous feelings for her. M. Shard

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    3. It was important that Romeo was on drugs when he met Juliet because otherwise he would not have fallen in love with her. Romeo was in love with Juliet's cousin, Rosaline, beforehand, if he was not drugged then he would have searched for her and would not even consider being in love with anyone else, including Juliet.
      G. Veronica

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    4. Reply to T. Nawal:
      Him falling in love with her on drugs and still being in love afterwards, proving it was genuine love is an interesting point of view. I never considered that while watching. I think you are right on that, since while he was on the drugs he was losing his sense with reality. To have him find Juliet for the first time would have made him view her as someone extraordinary, more than could be possible. For him to still love her even when his senses return is crucial.
      G. Veronica

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    5. I think it was important to be on drugs for Romero when he meets Juliet because before he meets Juliet he washes his face submerging his head on a sink full of water. He was trying to scape from that awful moment of love-sick, but because of that action he meets Juliet who was also trying to scape from Paris or from their parents order.

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    6. Reply to G. Veronica
      wow! I am really surprised that I did not noticed about Rosaline through the reading even in the film. I shall thank you for that information because I had to read it over again. About being in love Romero with Rosaline is hard to say that , it is most likely Romeo had a crush on her, because he knew she was completely unavailable, therefore the remedy to his emotional problems was meeting a new girl who was worthy of his love, in this case Juliet was the "one".

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    7. Drugs are best known to affect the mind. So Romeo, taking drugs when he met Juliet was of course significant. He was troubled by love and while taking drugs it could've consumed his mind and that's why he had fallen deeply in love with Juliet. Also he's a child that falls in love quick, and run into problems even quicker. If he wasn't on anything he'd probable wouldn't have ever died. He may have still be fansicated by Juliet but since he's prone to fall in love like he has done with her throughout the movie he would've find love else where and lived a long, very peaceful life... But that's just my opinion.
      M. Vanessa

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    8. I agree with you M. Vanessa I believe that Romeo being on drugs did have an impact on him falling in love with Juliet because maybe if he didn't take any drugs he would of known better then to fall in love with the enemy's daughter

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    9. F.gonalez
      I think it was significant that Romeo was on drugs when he met Juliet because he was able to show the love he had for her I think if it wasn't for the drugs he would of ignored her as soon as he saw her dancing with the other guy. The drugs made his true feelings come out and it gave him power to go up to her start flirt and kiss her.

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    10. I think Drug is not necessary to fall in love with someone. Many people fall in love and they are not on drugs all the time. True love can happen in full consciousness. We know all the weird and obnoxious things about that person and still we are in love with that person because he/she is our soul mate. So to me even if Romeo would not be on drugs; he will fall for Juliet because they were meant to fall in love. They were true soul mates. We can fall in love with so many people but it is hard to get your true soul-mate. When Romeo was over with the drug intoxication, he still was in love with Juliet despite being their culture clash and family opposition. After meeting Juliet he did not fall for anyone else because she was his true soul-mate. So for me that drug pill was unnecessary.

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    11. I think it was significant that Romeo was on drugs when he first met Juliet. I think this because I feel the film was relating to a younger generation that deals with social anxieties and shyness. So Romeo in the film was or had a reason to kind of miss judge and forget that he was in enemy lines and it helped him even approach her. It might also symbolizes that Juliet is Romeos angel or savior because while he was on the drugs he was having a bad trip and she changed that.
      C.Almeida

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    12. Response to F. Gonzales:
      I agree the drugs did help him a lot and it made him more comfortable but why do you think the film made that change from the original play?

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    13. It isn't that significant that Romeo was on drugs when he first met Juliet. I believe this because it was just made this way so that Romeo could be clouded by the effect and would end up dozing off, this was kind of how the film decided Romeo was going to meet Juliet. They were both wandering around and so happened to meet eachother and fall at first sight. Regardless they would have met, the film might have just made it this way to attract their younger audience.

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  4. Water is a major theme in the film. Why?

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    2. Water is a very moderate substance. It has no definite shape, yet is essential to life. It fills the container its poured in and assumes its shape; likewise, water can create many different moods depending on how it circles around you. Water in the form of rains represented the gloomy scenes of the movie; cloudy when Mercutio dies, raining when Tybalt is murdered, and raining when Romeo is exiled. Yet water in the swimming pool is the setting for when Romeo and Juliet kiss each other and drown deeper in love, as they're drowning deeper in the pool simultaneously. And in the scene where they first meet, they are separated by water in an aquarium through which they see each other. In this case, water is clear to represent their innocence. It supports the overall theme of the movie because it represents the love between Romeo and Juliet. Clear and innocent when they first see each other, deeper in the pool, near chaos when Mercutio is stabbed, and in chaos when Tybalt dies and Romeo is exiled. M. Shard

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    3. According to the film water is the mayor theme because it helps to represent purity and cleanliness of Juliet when she appears in the bathtub without make up with floating hairs and it suggests as a way of scape from the lifestyle of these two lovers. For instance Romeo submerges his head to the sink hopping to clear his mind form the unwanted world (drugs). It represents their innocent love and their effort to scape from the challenging society.

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    4. Water is a major theme in the film because it symbolizes a change and purity. The fact that Romeo and Juliet's families were rivals and that they both saw each other for the first time through the fish tank showed that change was going to happen and also the purity of their love. When they were swimming together, it showed their innocence of love for one another.
      When Romeo's best friend died, he cursed the both Romeo and Tybalt saying "a plague on both your houses", the ocean waters were wild and that of a storm, foreshadowing that something bad will happen soon. When Romeo killed Tybalt, Tybalt landed in a fountain and tainted it with blood. Fountain's usually are related with good luck and youth. After that incident Romeo's luck runs dry, being banned from Verona, and he dies at a young age.
      G. Veronica

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    5. Reply to M. Shard
      Firstly, let me say that what you wrote is really great answer. I agree when Tybalt was killed by Romeo the water's purity changes to a bloody and dirty one. Water is polluted which can symbolize love and romance polluted too, because it is polluted with hate of the family that made Romeo and Juliet die to end suffer and dislike.

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    6. I agree with m.rina and her answer I thought the same especially the part where romoeo put his head in water to try to wake him self from the drugs he had taken I think water is the main theme because it through out the movie Romeo and Juliet kept seeing each other in the back by the pool where they kiss and make more plans to see each other again the next day and Romeo also hides from the guards inside the water and just I said before he also put his head in water to wake himself up from the drugs
      F.Gonzalez

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  5. What thematic symbols did you see in the film (or written play)? What do you think they mean?

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    1. In the written play I noticed two thematic symbols that were repeated several times along the reading. They are cheeks and eyes. I think cheeks symbolize beauty and feelings, how emotion are held differently by each character, what they feel inside them are expressed through the cheek. The eyes may mean truth between uncertainty, it can mean sincerity or honesty even love, Because through eyes there is a connection of worlds and emotions.

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    2. Response to M.Rina:
      I agree with both symbols you used because cheeks do symbolize expression and emotions, but I also think that eyes are the windows to the soul and they tell the story of each person. That being said I agree with your explanation of the symbolism of the eyes because eyes do show intimacy and respect as well like if your connecting with someone your talking to your definitely looking in to each others eyes.
      C.Almeida

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  6. At the costume party (called a "masque") Romeo is dressed as a knight and Juliet has wings. What is the significance of this? Is Juliet an angel or a fairy?

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    1. In the film R+J, at the costume party the costumes are symbolic. Romeo is dressed as a knight to show his courage and boldness. He decided to go the party at Capulet's place who are his family's enemy. Juliet is dressed as an angel with a white dress and wings to show her innocence and simplicity. T.Nawal

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    2. In my opinion, Romeo is dressed as a knight to best match his character with the book. The Romeo in the book is likely Juliet's first love, and he was also an icon of freedom for her at the same time. He was her one way to break out of the rigid paths that girls had to take in that age, like being married off and becoming a mother at age 14, or having your suitor being chosen for you by your parents. He was saving her from a stifling life, hence he was dressed as a knight in the movie. Knights save damsels in distress.
      Juliet is dressed likely as an angel because for one, it is a very common expression for men to compare their women to angels because of the illumination they bring to their lives. Secondly, Queen Mab is portrayed as more of a trickster sort of character. She only expands more upon the desires that men already have, and she acts upon those men while they sleep. Queen Mab is a metaphor for dreams of this kind; she expounds upon people's desires. M. Shard

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    3. According to me, Romeo as a knight in black and Juliet in white as an angel is showing their opposite nature. Black is a symbol of sin and the white is a symbol of purity and chastity. When black meets white it makes white as black. So when Juliet met Romeo and after a kiss Juliet has a committed a sin called love. After a kiss she is not as pure as before. Love is a sin for them because of their opposite culture clash and and their families are enemies to each other. So Romeo Black Knight dress shoes a dark night and the Angel dress shows the morning white light which are opposite to each other and symbolizing their families opposition towards each other.

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    4. To Vanshika Sharma: That is a very interesting answer and something I hadn't considered before, but unfortunately, Romeo wears a grey armor and not a black one. Hehe. M. Shard

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    5. To Itz Nawal: I'd disagree with the Romeo being courageous part because Romeo is rather more stupid than courageous. He thinks a lot more from feelings than his reason. When he's banished, he attempts to commit suicide in front of the Friar. His intensity springs from his volatile feelings, rather than his courage. He's rather more on the brave side. Brave means to not be scared while courageous means to act in the face of fear, and usually, those who can reason suffer more from fear than those who act from their feelings. M. Shard

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    6. It is significant that Romeo is dressed as a knight because knights were known for sacrificing themselves for a King or someone of high status or for protecting others in general. Romeo sacrifices everything he has; his family, friends, and his life for the one he loves.
      Juliet is dressed as a fairy because I associate fairies being innocent and naive whereas angels are more obedient and free of sin. For Juliet to have gone against her family and marry the enemy's son, who she just met, is the most naive thing she could have done. It was also completely innocent because he was her first (and only) love.
      G. Veronica

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    7. Reply to M. Shard:
      I do not really see what Queen Mab has to do with proving Juliet is an angel. However, I think her being portrayed as an angel for men is a good point. She was going to get married to a man she does not know, although Juliet is not fine with it, he is because he views her as a great bride and as pure as an angel.
      G. Veronica

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    8. Reply to Vanshika Sharma:
      I agree with you about white and black symbolize sin and purity. that was a good description. Romeo is called as villain, besides he was on drugs so there was something not pure going on. Juliet was an innocent "child" (she was fourteen) with white and pink dreams. She is obedient with her parents, well until he meets Romeo. Anyway the colors of the costumes define two different realities but together they form a mixed world (love) that Romeo and Juliet share in common.

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    9. At the costume party I believe that Romeo was wearing the night costume to represent his bravery being in s place where he wasn't wanted and Juliet was an angel with wings in significant to her being a virgin and usally white and angles signify purity and innocence
      F.Gonzalez

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    10. Veronica G,
      I disagree that Juliet was dressed as a fairy because fairies grant wishes and things like that. And if you are saying that angels are free of sin then I think she was more of an angel because she married Romeo before she had sex with him. I mean she did it the right way according to her religion. She portrayed religious in the film where she wore white and had that cross necklace she gave to Romeo. This is why I think she was more of an angel than a fairy.
      T. Nawal.

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    11. For Shard Manhiani:
      Thanks for correcting me. Even if Romeo is wearing grey. I will stick to my point because grey is not a pleasant color like white. Sometimes we consider Grey as a new black in present time. There are different shades in grey so Romeo's grey knight dress is darker then most grey colors which is describing a dark night in comparison to Julieta's white day light angelic dress.

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    12. I think the costumes worn by both Romeo and Juliet symbolized something about there archetypes. Romeo is the night in shining armor coming to save Juliet and Juliet is Romeo's dream girl his fairy tale. I have reason to believe that she was supposed to be a fairy because it represents her as this fragile magical creature and that correlates with Romeo's costume because he is her night in shining armor bound to protect her.
      C.Almeida

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    13. I think the real idea was to have Juliet been presented as an angel which would support the image she portrayed in the play. She was this innocent girl with no negative connections.
      Ian Clarke

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  7. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST YOUR OWN QUESTION BELOW.

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    1. I feel like this story was already going in a direction with or without the curse Mercutio put on both the families, but how significant was it supposed to be?
      M. Vanessa

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    2. To Vanessa1136,
      I think Mercutio's curse was significant because it darkened every little hope that Romeo had that he could be with Juliet. At this point it was made sure that Romeo and Juliet's love was only going to end in a tragedy. He cursed the families because their feud was the reason he was dying. He wasn't even involved in the families feud that much. Since he cursed them, the families suffered at the end and realized how much their feud was affecting people around them.
      T.Nawal

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    3. In relation to Nawal's statement, Mercutio's death also signifies the un-ever ending war between the Montague and the Capulet. Romeo tried avoiding troubles with Tybalt, but the death of his friend triggered his revenge, which led to being banished from Verona. With this tragedy,it even made it more difficult to publicized his love for Juliet.
      -A.Cynthia

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  8. Romero and Juliet are star crossed lovers because there love wouldn't last. they were from two different families and Juliet's parents would rather her marry a rich man instead of the one she fell in love with. they both had to die because the people in there around them would not approve there love. and Juliet is an angle at the costume party considering she is an angel who deserves the world and romero is a night which was considered dirty in those days? im guessing not to sure :) S.ALMA

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    1. Actually, knights ruled over serfs in the system of feudalism. So, they were kind of a part of the nobility, but much lower in rank. Quite an imaginative answer. M. Shard

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  9. 1. Romeo and Juliet are described as star crossed lovers because at one point they had deep feeling for each other and there was actual love. As they started noticing the family issues, that love bond has broke apart. At that point is was clear to them both that even if they tried the love wouldn't last. A love bond became unrealistic for them. Them "dying" is symbol of failure for what they both wanted which was being together.
    2.Romeo being on drugs when meeting Juliet wasn't much significant but did set a mysterious setting. A drug is known for making you see things in a way you wouldn't see before. So therefore we don't know if it was the drug that made him see beauty in Juliet or whether he was conscious and fell in love with her because he knew it was real. If so then that shows us nothing he takes or does can stand in his way for her love.
    3.I think water is the main theme through out the film because water is know for its smooth running flow that can change its direction at any time. It represents change to human life, bringing the "good". When looking at a cloudy reflection of yourself in water (like a puddle) usually people see negativity and then thoughts build up on how to become better and stronger. We constantly see how Romeo wants to become better for Juliet and her family to except him. Water can also be like a balance in the film between Romeo and Juliet love and the families animosity. T.Patryk

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  10. Themes found:
    Poison and Love
    The poison taken by Romeo and Juliet represents their untimely death. As we know, poison harms the body system, causing or resulting to illness or death.For a generalized definition; according to Oxford, it means a substance that is capable of causing the illness or death of a living organism when introduced or absorbed. The poisons taken were the secondary cause of their untimely death. As we noticed, towards to the end of the play;Romeo thought that he had lost the love of his life, not knowing that she took a sleep inducing poison and decided to join her in death. Juliet waking up to see that Romeo is on the process of his death, equally decided to die with him.
    The love and death of Romeo and Juliet brought pain to the Montague and the Capulet. The word love is only made up of just five letters, with great significance. The romantic love that existed between Romeo and Juliet were sweet and sensual, and this love brought pain to both families, protagonists and others. Romeo, Mercutio and Benvolio have always been friends and cared for each other, but the love Romeo and Juliet had and the war between two families/parties caused Mercutio's death. Lets not forget the anger treatment from Juliet's father and the silent, and unaccepting treatment from her mother for refusing to accept Paris's marriage proposal. The response she received non-verbally on her decision, caused distress and pain, which led to the plan of dying if she can't be with Romeo.
    -A.Cynthia

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    1. A. Cynthia: That was perfectly said about the entire story. I agree 100% on how you symbolized the poison.

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  11. They have to die because since they claim to have a true love, That doesn't have a perfect beginning it's only right that it ends in tragedy. This type of ending leaves the reader with much emotion and a broken heart. There making it very interesting, popular and favored among the audience.

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  12. This is written by Lisa Cummings

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